the only presidential truly supportive of it is jon huntsman, there are three that are opposed, michele bachmann, tim pawlenty, ron paul, and mitt romney and herman cain, would could argue the unclear it's the two businessmen, matea, and maybe they don't take a stand until the very last minute. >> they are not jumping into the debate. romney in particularly is trying to avoid engaging and that's his strategy in this campaign, he's trying to run a rose garden campaign. the other candidates are illuminating about their strategies, michele bachmann, cut, cap and balance, he's the tea party. and huntsman is trying to go the statesmanlike group. >> pawlenty six months ago wouldn't have been opposed right away. >> he wouldn't have been. i was fascinated by what mitt romney said, it sounded so much like when he came out with his defense of his own massachusetts health care bill, you can read anything into that statement just now. >> anything you want. >> yeah, i'm opposed to obama health care, but i'm in favor of romney health care, so it's sort of very similar. after this, when this is all sa